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Post by Zylaa on Jun 12, 2007 18:15:38 GMT -5
You know all those books that seem to think that they must have the hero/heroine sleep with every remotely interesting person of the opposite gender that comes along? From Tamora Pierce up to Guy Gavriel Kay? And this is all perfectly alright in society?
Just once I want the heroine to be taken outside the city walls and stoned.
Discuss.
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Post by Xicrog on Sept 4, 2007 23:54:45 GMT -5
See, this is why I'm too infatuated with the Kazimyrites for my own good. They're somewhat of a personal response to that particular cliche, which I find kind of troublesome...
Er, in short, Kazimyr was founded by religious zealots (not Zealot). And their religion, Disciplism, states that there are seven deadly sins (totally did not base this off the Catholic church), the worst of which is lust. Because all bad things come from want of something- power, sex, money, etc.
All of the priesthood are celibate, asexuality is a legitimate and common-ish orientation, and in short there is very little emphasis on the sexual aspect of romance.
There is something like that in Tales of the Trinity. I won't say much, but it involves an ill-executed revenge plan, Aden and Datura of the Chosen Ones, Stigmata Psychosis, and Saiah Creed. I will most likely be listening to the Nightwish song "Wish I Had an Angel" the entire time while writing. Won't be for a while though...especially since Aden and Saiah have yet to show up.
Oh, you know who is the worst about that though? Laurell Hamilton. And the guy who wrote Wicked. Gregory something-or-another. Just...just...aorhgltrj;eao.
de'gnvkoeairgnfsf.
I'm banging my head against the keyboard a lot these days. Say, the second one would make a great name for a dwarven town in an epic cliched fantasy novel.
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Post by Zylaa on Sept 5, 2007 22:00:02 GMT -5
XD The noble and ancient city De'gnvkoeairgnfsf.
Pronounced De-BOING-ginvikoeairginfsf.
Anyway, I just finished Tigana, which is a wonderful book, but the romance is just ridiculous. If anyone cares, I will proceed with a long rant about the absurd romantic situations.
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Post by Shadaras on Sept 6, 2007 11:03:28 GMT -5
Heh. I may have mentioned this, but I doubt it. A friend and I are trying to write a book, and sort of managing it. Yesterday, after thinking about the plot, I told my friend "The only non-plot plot ((as in, not just obvious plot points)) we have is the romance-y stuff." Sadly, it's true.
Go ahead and rant about Tigana. I could probably list a few of those situations, but you probably have more to say about them than I ever would.
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Post by Zylaa on Sept 8, 2007 18:19:56 GMT -5
Alright.
People have sex in the following situations:
- In a secret closet when one of the two is supposed to be listening to the secret conversation going on in the room outside.
- Immediately after an ultimate battle against mystical forces of death, after knowing each other for only a few hours.
- In a bedroom, for once, after knowing each other for only a few hours.
The only main character who is not shown having sex is a harem girl.
I am probably missing a few scenes.
Why does the author do this???
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Elycien
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Post by Elycien on Sept 11, 2007 14:21:52 GMT -5
"Listen to the secret plans!"
"No, you're hot."
"but listen! They're going to assassinate the king!"
"... but you're hot."
"I have to listen to this to save the world, you know."
"But - but - you're REALLY hot!"
"... Well, okay. >.>"
So why do I get the feeling that the second person is Nick -- *smacked hard*
And everyone knows harem girls take vows of chastity. *nodnod*
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Post by Zylaa on Sept 11, 2007 20:48:20 GMT -5
XDDD Elycien, you're my hero of the day.
And it's more like:
Internal dialogue: Hm. I have to listen to the secret plans, but how do I distract the other person so they don't hear the secret plans? Oh, I know!
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Post by Xicrog on Sept 11, 2007 21:02:26 GMT -5
Who's Nick? Do I want to know?
D: GGK. Why must you torment me with teh secks? THE LIFE OF AN ASE PERSON IS SAAAAD. *angsts*
I don't think Sailing to Sarantium was as bad as Tigana though.
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Post by Shadaras on Sept 11, 2007 21:44:57 GMT -5
.. Why is it that I can ignore the stuff that you're complaining about? I recognize the scenes that you're talking about, and yet I didn't care about them. Why is that?
And I see no reason why knowing who Nick is is a bad thing, but I'll let someone else explain who he is.
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Post by Zylaa on Sept 12, 2007 21:38:16 GMT -5
Well I'm very easily disturbed here- ask katanal, if she ever shows up- I curl up and hide my face whenever people make obscene jokes IRL. Something like a pet peeve of mine, I guess.
Hm. We all seem to avoid explaining who Nick is. I think we should get him to come here and explain for himself. And for now keep Xicrog in suspense. BWAHAHA!
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Post by Xicrog on Sept 12, 2007 21:43:45 GMT -5
Oh. What was it we were describing ourselves as during my junior year lunch hours? An island of purity in a vast sea of pervertedness or something to that effect?
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Post by Zylaa on Sept 13, 2007 23:52:13 GMT -5
Yes, something to that effect.
And the island was under attack by hackey sacks and bottles and the random people who threw french fries.
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Post by Xicrog on Sept 14, 2007 6:47:57 GMT -5
D: No one respects the chaste anymore. It's like the reverse of olden times: instead of the adulterers getting stoned, the abstaining get hackey-sacked.
At least we're less likely to die.
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In possession of an angry phoenix. Very dangerous. Do not cross.
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Post by ikkin on Sept 14, 2007 12:56:24 GMT -5
D: GGK. Why must you torment me with teh secks? THE LIFE OF AN ASE PERSON IS SAAAAD. *angsts* ...what does "ASE" mean? I looked it up on Wiki, but nothing seemed to be anywhere near relevant. >>; |
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Post by Xicrog on Sept 14, 2007 13:02:27 GMT -5
Shorthand slang for asexual (as in the orientation).
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